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For all of you who were not around last big hit

Part 1 of 2

Old info from the hit of 2006 very interesting some names are still around
and if you read even some things that are said sound like today .. even all the people saying it will not be hacked read because the nay sayers were proved wrong back then saying fta is done ...NOT!!!

C/P

OLD NEWS

Nagrastar ECM aftermath // 2006-07-02
Nagrastar started their ECM on American satellite (Dishnetwork)on June 21st knocking down all the international channels and then PPVs it slowly spread through rest of the channels and took all of it down within a week, they have started the same routine on Canadian side and it will have the same results.
This happened to be the most effective ECM by Nagrastar since the Nagra2 stream.... they have taken down all the FTA (Pansat, coolsat, viewsat, arica, fortec etc.... Free To Air receivers), old plastic cards, older revision cards, atmegas and all the other methods people were using except the Rom102.

Here is the result of the ECM

American Nagravision Sats 61.5, 110, 119, and 148:

Down -all channels -Other FTA boxes
Down -all channels -DVB PCI cards
Down -all channels - Plastic ROM 101 cards
Down -all channels - Plastic ROM 10 cards
Down -all channels - Plastic ROM 3 cards
Down -all channels - Syndrome cards
Down -all channels - AVR emulation
Down -all channels - Atmega
UP -all channels -Plastic ROM 102 card
Up -all channels -Linux FTA Boxes(Triple Dragon, Dreambox, etc) using 102 card.

Canadian Nagravision Sats 81 and 91:

UP -no PPVs - Other FTA boxes
UP -no PPVs -DVB PCI cards
UP -no PPVs - Plastic ROM 10 card with
UP -no PPVs - Syndrome card
UP -no PPVs - AVR emulation
UP -no PPVs - Atmega
UP -all channels - Plastic ROM 102
UP -all channels - Linux FTA boxes (Triple Dragon, Dreambox, etc) using 102 card

I am sure the working Canadian channels will be gone in next few days.

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FTA guys talking about fix // 2006-07-07
There is a different story every day and it almost seem like they are trying to have a smoke screen.... the truth is that FTA hack started from European satellite system(Nagravision Euorpe was hacked before Nagrastar North America, it was based on European hack).
Nagravision in Europe changed their commands few months ago and all the European FTA boxes went dark, they still have no solutions for those boxes, it makes me wonder how these copy cats North American FTA guys think they can come up with the fix when their teachers in Europe are looking at black screen after 3 months of trying?

BTW I am receiving lots of hate messages and e-mails from the FTA guys, my answer is very simple, do not promise people if you dont have anything, the best business is to be honest and up front, here is a golden rule to live by "under promise, over deliver".... Let me tell you guys an other thing, I would love to be "wrong" and I have no problem what so ever to admit if I am wrong.

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An other claim of victory // 2006-07-13
This is the post by Viewsat guys (you can take it for what ever it is worth).

"Yes, it's true! VS got the full MAP and they did it themselves! Don't ask when. Don't ask how. The call came awhile ago, and I am not even allowed to discuss it. ALL sections are known! Engineers have to decrypt the info and write the routines, but I am promised a beta test file soon! DO NOT BUY ANYTHING TILL YOU SEE THE RELEASE!, But I fully expect it to be soon. I wish i could give our members here more info, but expect to have your tv back soon Stay tuned to xxxxxxx.com Congrats Viewsat for being so a"peel"ing!"

An other post by them
"Posted by Paramount
To the naysayers in this thread...
I am not allowed to talk about what I've seen, wish I could, but I've seen irrefutable proof with my own eyes, that viewsat infact does have the map rom, everything they need to fix this counter measure. All you naysayers can say is where is the file all day long. Start off where you left off, way back in august, our last doomsday threat right? The invincable, inpenetrateble, Nagravision 2 fell on August 31st 2005. We are not that far off from a year from that date. I've seen proof they have the map rom, cold hard proof. The map rom needs to be disected, the file needs to be written. The map rom is in binary code and must be deciphered, page by page, believe me, there are a lot of pages, and this is only the map rom. This is supposed to take weeks for a single coder to complete. Naysayers are useless people who can't accomplish anything. Time is needed to get things completed, the naysayers can't grasp that concept. It took time to break N2, it took time for the last fix, and now it's taking more time for this fix. Time is the only thing that seperates us from a fix, they are working as fast as they can. I believe there will be a fix, but the naysayers should STFU. Time after time again they will come out of the wood work to tell everyone FTA is dead, each time eating crow, and than getting their kicks again for another week than back to eating crow. They will never change. Maybe hoping one of these days they will be right so they can say I told you so. That is basically what they are doing, the type of people they are, they will keep naysaying until it becomes true, I'll say though, it ain't gonna be their time this time, more crow for the taking for them"

There is also a card sharing method being tested by certain FTAs (FTAs with card sharing capability), I have no idea how that works but there is a huge discussion about it on all the different forums.

I am simply writting news as it unfolds, I have no vested interest in ANY test device and I have no knowledge of any programming of cards, atmegas, FTAs or what ever else is available in the world of testing.... the only thing I can say for certain is that I have been around for LONG time and I do get lots of information from reliable sources (I also do get play for time to time but I have no problem to correct it by admitting if/when I need to.)

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Coolsat announcement // 2006-07-19
Here is what coolsat guys wrote on their site today.

" Knock Knock
Who is there.
NorWest!
NorWest who?
Norwest with a card reader solution that may just work. lol
Honestly here is what we are doing we are still working on the final fix but in the mean time starting with CS4000 owners that have a cardreader you will be able to pop in a certain
card and get tv rolling.
More details to be forth coming as we are still perfecting the innerworkings. Look for a update later on tonight. There are many kinds of card sharing soultions out there but this one we think is the best so far."

I guess they do not want to be 2nd to Viewsat even in making claims..... let us see what it looks like? if you want to use a card why use FTA?.... well it is not my problem, I am here to write news.

Files released for coolsat says the following

COOLSAT5000 NORW v124 07-19-2006

The implementation of some unknown maprom routines from deep inside the rom102 has made it necessary To "slave" or "aux" the card similar to what was done with emulation during the H and Hu days.
This is being done while a cardless solution is worked on.
While we know that not everyone has an "open" Rom102 to aux, the CoolSat hackers decided that at least a partial solution is better than no solution.
Borrowing some test code from a very talented card coder (We will leave his/her name out for anonymity sake) We have implemented an "aux" card that is completely safe from the stream so there are no worries about the Card receiving any damage from malicious code.
Testers can get this working now by writing the "AuxCard.bn102" to an open rom102 and inserting it into a CoolSat receiver that has a card slot that is active, along with reprogramming the stb with our new code.
The CoolSat hackers that collectively hacked the box and have now implemented an "aux" card want the folks with CoolSat receivers to know that if there is a way to provide a solution, short or long term, it WILL be done. Enjoy life, enjoy each other, and now, enjoy some TV.

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Wednesday came and gone // 2006-07-20
Yes Wednesday is officially gone and no news from Viewsat.
I personally stand by my July 7th news more than I believe any of these misleadings and false promises but I will keep my mind open and report the news as unbiasly as possible.
Coolsat released (as they called a "temporary" solution) for their receivers which requires a 102 card, few other tools to aux the card and card reader for the coolsat (not cheap option), my guess is you will see most of the FTA dealers following that route than the actual solution.

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An other post from Viewsat boys // 2006-07-24
Posted by Varcity:
"First I would like to apologize to the people that hang on every word I say, and to this site for the speculatiion on a fix. The timelines provided were given to me by people I trust.
This has not been an easy one for anybody. The providers have gotten serious about their signal integrity and dealt their best shot to date at FTA. Nobody had a clue how serious this new ECM was. Viewsat even underestimated the complexity of it all. There's been no TRUE cardless fix offered yet by anyone. That alone should give you all a hint as to the difficulty involved here. Blacklist has worked tirelessly on the problem.
Viewsat engineers have never stopped their quest for a solution. Coolsat caved in and used a Rom 102 to get some TV going for their customers, and Captive works, Triple Dragon & Dreambox have card sharing working. None of these are the "fix" we've all been looking for.
Do I still believe it will come? YES, I DO! The predictions of when the fix will come have been wrong since the channels started dropping. It has been 1 mo. since the premium channels started dropping off. Still we have no fix. This is the longest FTA has been down (tho not totally down). Some of the players bought info & help to try & get their units back up. None have accomplished the prize they were seeking.
Viewsat hasn't bought anything, cept a scope rental to get a read of the Rom 102. This WAS accomplished and they have the FULL read of the Rom 102 to prove it. Does this guarantee them a solution? Only If the engineers can decode it all and reverse it and write the routines.
Nobody else has even attempted going this route, so it would appear the whole industry is content to let VS carry the ball on this one. It's a **** shame that when the solution is released, none of them will be standing in line w/cash in hand to help offset the cost of all the work done to get the solution. 1 last routine is all that stops us from having tv.. The read done on the 102 does not contain the info necessary to complete the solution.
VS engineers have to find the last routine on their own. The entire industry depends on them finding it, & WE must all wait for them to find it. Blame me if you must for this wait. Mr. V asked me if they should just follow Coolsat's lead and make a carded solution. I said "NO, we have promised this industry a cardless solution, Let's stay the course till we get it done" his responce to me was " That's what I like about you, you see the real picture of what is needed" I still feel in my heart they will get this without any help, and they will do it this week. That is my opinion and an opinion only. If they don't accomplish this soon, I will relent and ask for a similar solution as Coolsat. That will be a major defeat for me as well as VS, but I just don't see that happening. Business 101 dictates that if they want to dominate the market, they must flex their engineering muscles for all to see to prove they are worthy of being #1. Anything less is NOT satisfactory. Lets all hope this comes to be very soon for all of FTA's sake.. If you want to blame someone for your lack of TV, Blame me, I won't let them quit.. It is down to 1 lousy hardware routine. The combinations are limited, not billions like people think. They will get this.. Just be patient, and be kind to each other. It's only TV.
A good tester always has a backup. Either sub, or switch to plastic if you can't wait.

DO NOT BUY AN FTA UNIT TILL WE SEE A SOLUTION."

An other quote:

If i say that I was told Wednesday or Thursday last nite, everyone would hold me to that. What I did say is, I will ask for a carded solution similar to CS if the fix doesn't come this week. I stick to MY word, and I will do this, ONLY if they fail to provide a solution this week..."


All I can say is that few of these guys have very good potential to make great politicians.... they are in the wrong field
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Here is more from the Viewsat wizkids // 2006-07-26
C&P from their page exactly the way they wrote.

"07/26/06--> [From Cyphris] Spoke to Mr. V and they had a major break through yesturday and said they are very very close now. As to when. when it is done but I can see light from the end of the tunnel. If only this traffic jam will start moving maybe we can get out by end of the week.

Anyone who holds anyone to saying "maybe will get out by this week" as a time frame is right out an idiot who can't read and just wants to stir sh1t. My statement is ment to say they are alot closer then they were 2 days ago and very very close compared to 2 weeks ago.

Maybe all the members here will win the lottery. Then Maybe they can buy a sub. So that Maybe they can stop posting useless garbage. which maybe will just make it easyer for the MODs here. Then again Maybe they just can't read!!!

By all means this doesn't mean go buy a bunch of Viewsat or any other FTA for the purpose of getting the big 2. I found it necessary to inform you that they had a major break thru and a fix is very very close now. I am one who likes to tell it the way I see it. I am lucky enough to get presented with evidence to allow me to inform you of the progress. There are many alternatives you can do to get TV you just need to learn to read and apply what you learn in the process of reading to get you there. For those who just want free TV and can't wait. It is a shame but with with the ease of FTA it has spoiled alot in this community. The spoiled ones are the ones who usually complain. complaining ain't gonna get ya free TV any faster."

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This is the message. // 2006-07-27
They have the following message posted on their site.

"Server offline, No fix yet... update:
Word is viewsat should be up by the weekend!
Anyone up for the Roy Jones fight saturday
Stand by!

We will be up and running soon!!!."


Truth, Smoke screen or a blunt lie...... you be the judge, I quite guessing


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Update from Viewsat // 2006-07-29
"UPDATE from the source.
No scams, no lies... just truth!
Fix IS being worked on, a file WILL be released soon.
Stand by!
We will be up and running soon!!!."

Email from one of the Viewsat customer

"There is a bridge for sale in timbuktu Anyone interested contact viewsat websites world wide."

Take your pick

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Blunt lies bad business // 2006-07-30
The golden rule is "Honesty is the best policy" but what we have seen from Viewsat crew so far is lie after an other lie,even their own spokesman has admitted that he has been lied to.
I wrote an article on July 7th and took lots of heat from FTA guys (specially viewsat crew), gave them a fair chance to prove me wrong but all I got was lie after lie..... my hat off to the other guys who did what ever they could to take care of their people (dont think that is a good solution but looking at the circumstances..... they are ahead of the game).
I know I will get some more hate emails but the truth is there is a lot of BS no substance.
FTA had it's moment (just like Mike Tyson did in his prime)and it is history now (I hope I am wrong but I dont think so).

On the lies note here is an other scammer who is lying out of their teeth to ripp people off.... this is the spam message being sent to people

"The Xfta is the only cardless satellite receiver that is plug and play and opens all channels for testers who demand speed and quality above all. The receiver works with both dishnet and bev which are both the most in demand networks to date within the community."

Easy thing to remember spam = scam.

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Status as of 8/4/2006 // 2006-08-04
No new bins as of today, (no cardless fix).

Ariza 400/500: Down
Ariza 700/700cx: Down
Ariza 750cx: Down
Ariza 800S: Down
Ariza Xtreme: Down
SilverBullet: Down
BlueJay I: Down
BlueJay II: Down
Buzz: Down
Buzz Plus: Down
CaptiveWorks CW500S: Down
CaptiveWorks CW600S: Works with Autroll and PPV (Card Sharing)
CaptiveWorks CW600S Premium: Works with Autroll and PPV (Card Sharing)\
Coolsat 4000: UP with Autroll and PPV (Card Slaving "Not Sharing..")
Coolsat 5000: UP with Autroll and PPV (Card Slaving "Not Sharing..")
Coolsat 6000: UP with Autroll and PPV (Card Slaving "Not Sharing..")
Coship: Down
DG Station Mutant/Relook: Works with Autroll and PPV (Card Sharing)
Digiwave 5900CI: Down
Digiwave 6800/7000: Down
Digiwave 7200S: Down
Dreambox: Works with Autroll and PPV (Card Sharing)
ExtremeView Magnum: Down
Fortecstar Lifetime Classic: Down
Fortecstar Lifetime Ultra: Down
Fortec Mercury II: Down
Lava 3500: Down
Comanche: Down
Microroyal MRX-900/1200: Down
Mvidea FS4000: Down
Neosat Lite: Down
Neosat Lite Premier: Down
Neosat iPro: Down
Neusat SP 6000: Down
Orasat V. 3.0: Down
Orasat V. 5.0: Down
Pansat 1500A: Down
Pansat 2300A: Down
Pansat 2500A: Down
Pansat 2700A: Down
Pansat 3500S: Down
Pansat 5000HC: Down
Pansat 6000HXC: Down
Pantec 2500 clones: Down
PanTec Ultra 2500 clones: Down
PanTec 2700A/E|MARK VII: Down
PanTec MARK V Series I & II : Down
PanTecAE: Down
PanTecVE: Down
PanTecSD: Down
SatCruiser OLD Models: Down
SatCruiser New Models: Down
SatPro DSR500: Down
Skyview RX600: Works with Autroll and PPV (Card Sharing)
Sonicview: Down
SPACESTAR: Down
Triple Dragon: Works with Autroll and PPV (Card Sharing)
Viewsat 2000 Extreme: Down
Viewsat 2000 Platinum: Down
Viewsat PVR 7000: Down
XTC 5000: Down
XTC 5080PVR: Down

ROM3: Down
ROM10: Down
ROM11: Down
ROM 101: Down
ROM 110: Down
ROM102: UP
ROM103: UP
SO Series: DOWN N/A

Thanks for the info.... you know who you are.


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Viewsat autroll cardless file released // 2006-08-14
I was out of town since Friday, just came back few minutes ago (Aug 14 at 11 PM pacific time) and seen this posted all over the net

"Update from original post, FILE HAS BEEN RELEASED.

About 5:00 AM eastern time, I got a call from Viewsat notifying me they finally had a cardless fix for their receivers. All FTA receivers have been down for about 2 months, only work arounds were available, such as Coolsats carded fix which requires a rom 102 card to be inserted into the cardslot (currently rom 102s are selling for over $200 in most places, more than the majority of FTA receivers), and work arounds known as card sharing which forced the user to hook their receiver up to the internet. Both were a far cry from the cardless fix Viewsat is going to be releasing today."

They did it again when every one (included me) said it is not looking good.... hat off to the guys who did it.

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